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Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions here at Colorado Pols. I have a two-parter here for you:

It’s understood that the Green Party advocates protection and stewardship of the environment more strongly than most political parties. With this in mind, I have a couple of points I’d like you to clarify with regard to the Colorado Green Party’s official position and your own personal opinion:

1) I’m certain you’re well aware of John Tanton & Alan Kuper’s viewpoints looking to severely restrict immigration policy in the United States - all in the name of the environment. What is the Colorado Green Party’s official position on immigration policy (with regard to environmental protection) and do you see an issue like this one completely dividing Colorado Greens?

2) Michael Shellenberger and Ted Nordhaus wrote an essay titled “The Death of Environmentalism” (released at an October 2004 meeting of the Environmental Grantmakers Association). It’s quite controversial and raises some interesting points that have an obvious impact on the future of our nation’s environmental movement.


Have you read this essay and what does it have to say about the future of the Green Party in the United States and Colorado in particular?


Question for Dave C: When Green Candidate Bob Kinsey ran in 2004 in Congressional District 4 he got appx. 12000 votes, while Musgrave got 155,000. Does the party see itself continuing to run hopeless long shot campaigns like that one or will it shift to running much more winnnable races at the local level?

Dave Chandler

Response to "cd4"

Within the Green Party we often have this same discussion. Do we run candidates for high profile offices, or concentrate on organizing just around local offices? And the conclusion we usually come to is that we have to do both. Running a candidate for governor or Congress can give us make greater media coverage with which we can convey our message and recruit new activists and Green registered voters. At this stage in our development, those high profile races are probably going to be "long shot campaigns". But to run local candidates requires more registered Greens that have experience with local issues. So, what it really amounts to is a "chicken or egg" thing for currently small third parties like the Greens. Of course, it is our goal to run more candidates in more winnable local races and we're beginning to have some success as Art Goodtimes, the Green County Commissioner is Sam Miguel County demonstrates. And last year Tanya Ishikawa ran a respectable race for Jefferson County Commissioner receiving over 9000 votes.

Ter Ducken

No question, really. I just think any candidate with the last name "Goodtimes" is destined for success. Who could possibly be against Goodtimes?


Thank you for taking the time to answer some questions.
How do you perceive press reports that Republicans want to 'fund' green candidates to undermine Democratic candidates? Is this a myth?
Again, thank you.



I am interested to hear more about the Green Party's position on water issues here in Colorado. You may, or may not be aware of the Southern Delivery System that has been proposed for solving water needs of El Paso County. Or the other hot issue of the Animas La Plata Project.

Regardless, the issue of water is shaping up to be THE political battle of the West. How do we protect our environment for fishing, white water rafting etc, while still meeting the needs of municipal and agricultural needs?


If you had to pick one, do you think a Green candidate or a Libertarian candidate will be elected to a state house seat first? I know what you'd like to see happen, but realistically which do you think will happen first.

Thanks for taking the time.

Dave Chandler

Response to "Envy":

I have to chuckle at those rumors. We've heard them before ... we're still waiting for the checks. But seriously, since Greens don't accept PAC contributions, and generally Greens don't take contributions from individuals over $500, there isn't much chance that an attempt to subvert the process would go unnoticed by a Green campaign or by the public.

As they say on one of my favorite television shows: "Myth Busted!"

Dave Chandler

Response to "poli.hack":

I am aware of the article "The Death of Environmentalism". However, I haven't read it yet ... I guess I'd better put it up higher on my reading list.

As to immigration, I would first direct you the the national Green Party's 2004 platform statement: http://www.gp.org/platform/2004/socjustice.html#1002510

Furthermore, you might read the above platform position in conjunction with the plank on population: http://www.gp.org/platform/2004/socjustice.html#999604

Tanton and Kuper were behind the attempt by anti-immigration advocates to take over the Sierra Club a couple of years ago ... an effort that failed. In my personal opinion, immigration is an intractable problem on a planet already populated by over 6 billion human beings. It would be most helpful if people agreed to discuss this issue calmly with an eye towards mitigation. What is dangerous is the demagoguery this controversy tends to engender; scapegoating other humans irrespective of their individual circumstances leads to discrimination, hatred and ultimately to violence. The problem, nevertheless, is real and deserves addressing. But I would note that the Republicans are in greater danger of splitting on this issue than Greens. Since Bush has adopted a fairly liberal plan for immigration, he has found himself publically at odds with members of his own party ... like Tom Tancredo.

Susan B

You may not have an answer for this, but do you do any sort of calculations or predictions in terms of how many registered Greens you think you would need in Colorado in order to be able to really compete with Rs and Ds? Have you done any sort of projections like that? Thank you

Ter Ducken

Okay, I do have a question after all. The Green Party candidates who have been successful like Goodtimes, why do you think they were able to win? Where did he succeed where others failed?


Dave - thanks for taking the time to do this today. When will you make your decision to run for Congress and can you tell us more about your ability to make a difference in that race?


Dave, You speak a lot about commitment to campaign finance reform on a national level, but didn't address Amendment 27 here in Colorado and its effect on state races. Give us your take on Amendment 27 and how it might help/hinder Green candidates.


Two questions:

(1) What kind of structural (constitutional) changes to government do the Greens support (a) nationally and (b) state-level? And what understanding of democracy and representation inform these positions?

(2) While the Greens desire status as a national party, doesn't it make sense to build a nation-wide party apparatus that can run and win state and local elections first, rather than pissing away finite resources and credibility on Federal-level seats?

Rebel Dem

Mr. Chandler:

In 2002 you ran in the 7th CD where Mike Feeley lost by 121 votes to Bob Beauprez. If my memory serves me correctly, you got nearly 2,500 votes. The ultra-conservative Bob Beuprez now has the power of incumbency to either hold onto that seat or use it as a platform to run for governor. Had you not run, do you think that at least 122 of the people who voted for you might have held their noses and voted for Feeley? Do you think the interests of working people and the environment are served by having Beauprez support Bush's reckless agenda 100% of the time rather than a Mike Feeley who might have only supported Bush's agenda 20%?

Dave Chandler

Response to "Susan B":

We haven't done any calculations of the kind you refer to ... However, we operate under the theory that voter registration is not going to be the determining factor in winning an election. Tanya Ishikawa received over 9000 votes for Jefferson County Commissioner in 2004 when the Jeffco Greens have an actual voter registration number of under 700 (to the best of my recollection). We will grow and win on the basis of our stand on issues and how we campaign.

Dave Chandler

Response to "Ter Ducken":

I think we can gather from past voting history that San Miguel County is chock full of progressive citizens. Art gets re-elected because he does a great job. But, as for all third parties, since party registration numbers are small, party loyalty is not going to be the thing that is going to get Greens elected at this time. Goodtimes takes stands on county issues that his constituency agrees with ... and that is what will eventually get more Greens elected in the future. Besides the fact that Art Goodtimes is a charming, interesting and engaged individual - that helps!

Phoenix Rising

Dave - thanks for taking the time to write in today. Here's a question that directly relates to the ability of 3rd-party candidates to win:

Do you view alternate voting systems (instant-runoff voting, Condorcet voting, single transferable voting) as vital to the future of third parties? Are you working with Progressive Dems and others to push for such technologies?

Dave Chandler

Response to "Ed" and "Rebel Dem":

Whether or not we could ever know after four years if 121 folks might have cast a ballot differently in 2002, we'll never know. What we do know is that Mike Feeley's support of Bush's war resolution on Iraq was WRONG. The CD 7 race in 2002 is a great example of why it is essential for people to have a genuine choice ... both Beauprez and Feeley supported attacking Iraq -- I presented a clear alternative on THE critical issue of that election. People who wanted to vote their conscious and convictions had that opportunity with my candidacy. Indeed, I suspect if people really did understand then how horrible Bush's war in Iraq would become ... and that Bush was lying about the weapons of mass destruction, I would have won.

I, of course, would argue that Feeley's 'Republican-lite' stand on many issues made the distinctions between he and Mr. Beauprez so minimal that voters decided to choose the real Republican.

I have talked to many Democrats and unaffliateds who consider themselves liberals and progressives. Their biggest concern is that Democrats are still not standing on principle and opposing Bush and the radical Republicans with vigor and determination. Green candidates can and and will do that. And we can do it straightforwardly and honestly because we don't have to be concerned about losing big special interest campaign contributions. In other words, because we do not take PAC money, we don't have to spin the truth to curry favor with big contributors.

I will officially declare my candidacy in the Seventh Congressional District when it becomes clear that voters once again deserve to have a distinct, truly progressive choice in the contest.

By the way, in 2002, I received over 3200 votes, the highest number of the third party candidates.

Dave Chandler

Response to "Phoenix Rising":

The national and Colorado Green Parties are strong supporters of Instant Run-off Voting (IRV). In 2004, our presidential candidate, David Cobb, made advocacy for Instant Run-off Voting a major part of his stump speech. And I do know that Denver Greens chair, Rick Van Wie, has been involved with several groups and talked to state legislators about IRV.

Readers who would like to know more about IRV might take a look at: http://www.instantrunoff.com/

Dave Chandler

Response to "Strider":

I'll admit that I am not the 'water issues' person in the party. I will forward your question to one or two folks who know much than I do on this subject to hopefully get you a response.


I think Dave is absolutely correct that Feeley lost to Beauprez in 2002 because he basically did not stand up to Bush on the war in Iraq. Had Feeley been an opponent of the war resolution I doubt Dave Chandler would have received the votes he did. Feeley got bad advice to act like a Marine, when he did not need to prove his service record. Like Strickland's spineless decision to support war, it proced a bad bargain.

Deanna McLain

Dear Colorado Green Party,

I am confused on what these ballot issues are saying.
I want to vote a staight pro-environment ticket.
No Republicans.

Would you please advise me on how the Green party
is voting. I have been a member since 1996 and wish
to become more active in our Front Range political
process, action, etc.


Deanna McLain


I do not


Now we know who the senbsile one is here. Great post!

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