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leavingearly

The most amazing thing to me about this whole leaving early bit is that the press bought it hook line and stinker!

No one seems to think about the additional comp time, over time, etc... that the D's sprint in the last few weeks cost the voters.

If they had finished early without adding over 40 late bills and without working 14 hour days just to do it I would be impressed, as it stands, ho hum!

Furthermore, the simple fact that you are attempting to spin the anti-business issue proves that the Rs were correct. There were several stories about it and the Ds, particularly in the House were running scared.

learnedhand

I've got to disagree about the "anti-business" thing as well. I think the Republican's did a good job of staying on message and pushing that line, it definitely affected the House Dems.

Overall though I think it was a succesful session. The Dems were brought in to clean up the budget mess that the Republican's couldn't find the time to deal with.

"We're talking about the budget and they're talking about beastiality."

that pretty much sums it up!

leavingearly

Every side has their kooks, for every Welker there is a M. Carroll. We will see how "successful" the Ds really are come this November.

learnedhand

" for every Welker there is a M. Carroll."

I'm missing that analogy. I'm not a Morgan Carroll fan but I think you're really stretching. Care to give some examples?

leavingearly

To lefties, Welker is a complete right wing nut wacko. To rightwingers, M. Carroll is a compliete left wing nut wacko.

learnedhand

right, I understood the point you were trying to make. What I was looking for was some sort of example of Morgan Carroll saying something as kooky as what Welker said. I mean it's not just that we on the left think Welker is a right wing wacko, it's that he proved it with his men marrying horses speech. I'm asking for something similiar from M. Carroll.

gopone

Okay, instead of Welker, from a policy standpoint, how about Cerbo.

From a behavior standpoint, how about Green?

tommix

I think YOU are going to have to work overtime to find anything or anyone to compare with Welker...he is pretty much out there all by himself.........in la la land.

Unawen

To leavingearly, re: the comp time and the press "buying it hook line and stinker (sic)": they didn't.

Have you ever been at the state capitol in the last two weeks of a legislative session? If you had, you would know that the House and Senate work very long hours EVERY SINGLE YEAR during those last two weeks. Legislators introduce bills right up to the last week (see: midnight gerrymander by the Rs in 2003), so nothing that happened in the last week of the 2005 session was by any measure unusual. Other than adjourning early. THAT was unusual.

(from a person who has been at the state capitol in the last two weeks of the session for the past eight years)

learnedhand

Green is a good example, I like that one.

leavingearly

Unawen, so not the point. And yes, I have been there till midnight many times myself. My point was not that they worked late, but that the Ds were not consistent, since they were talking about how efficient they were while introducing late bills and working the staff to death so they could finish 2 days early and "save" taxpayers money.

All this while have the fewest bills in recent memory, doesn't sound very efficient to me.

rational man

I'm curious -- what did Green do that you are saying is analogous to Welker?

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