We are pleased to have potential CD-7 candidate Mark Paschall with us for a "live" Q&A today.
Paschall, a Republican, is the Jefferson County Treasurer and a former member of the Colorado House of Representatives.
Mr. Paschall has graciously agreed to answer your questions today, so feel free to ask away in the COMMENTS section below. You don't have to agree with Mr. Paschall, but we do ask that you be respecful in your questions.
And so, without further ado, click below to read our first 11 questions and answers with Mr. Paschall, and then ask your own questions...
1. Are you running for congress in CD-7 in 2006?
I have formed an exploratory committee and am very interested in running for the 7th CD, though many in the establishment are trying to discourage it. I think, however, I need to wait for Rep. Beauprez to publicly and personally announce his intentions. I do not rely on third party mouthpieces.
2. What would be your reasons for running for congress in 2006?
My only reason for running would be to be another voice and vote for the Constitution and for America. Too many are toeing a party line instead of considering what is best for the country and interpreting the Constitution to fit their own agendas and dole out favors. Those who know me, have served with me and worked with me, understand that I take principled stands on issues, deferring always to the Constitution as my guide. If you look at Congress, we have granted the power to declare war to the President, have allowed our borders to remain wide open, have usurped people’s civil rights through the Patriot Act, just to name a few. Furthermore, when we talk about judicial activism, we must examine how we got to this point. We got here because Congress was first to abdicate their powers. The judicial body is simply following what Congress has allowed. And we the people went to sleep and allowed this to happen on our watch.
3. What do you offer a Republican voter that Rick O’Donnell does not?
I have been elected. I have campaigned and won. I have a family and have raised three boys into adulthood. Through my sons, I experienced the public education system as well as the offerings of charter schools, private colleges and state colleges. These weren’t numbers on a stat sheet, this was real life experience raising a family, struggling to make ends meet, feeling the repercussions of high taxes and knowing the strain it puts on a family. Look, I like Rick O’Donnell. I know him and find him to be a good guy. However, the fact that I have a voting record that anyone can research, the fact that I have taken controversial stands and stood by my beliefs and the Constitution, and frankly, I believe that people on both sides of the aisle are disenfranchised with the party establishment.
Whether you like me or not, there is no arguing that I am not part of a party establishment. At this point in our country, I believe that’s a strong point. The voters are tired of their elected officials putting party before country. How many people have been up in arms over illegal immigration? What has been done about it? How many people have been upset by deficit spending? What has been done about it? How many people see the country being sold out to foreign interests and corporations? What has been done about it? Now you know why I am not part of the establishment.
4. There is a school of thought (which Colorado Pols has also repeated) that says while you could win in a congressional primary you could not win in a general election because you are too right-wing. How do you respond to this?
My track record speaks for itself. Again, you can research my record, both voting and election. I have never lost a race. I ran in a House District which had a Democrat voter registration advantage. I was told I couldn’t win. Not only did I win the primary, I won the general. After my first term in office, the district went from a Democrat advantage to a Republican advantage. This House District is a microcosm of the 7th Congressional. And about being right wing, if people think that believing in the Constitution and actually voting and working to uphold it is right wing, then so be it. But the truth is, we (both parties) have drifted so far from our founding documents and have tried so hard to achieve consensus, that we abandoned our principles as a country.
You have an unusually long and publicized history of criticisms that have gotten wide coverage in the media. We want to hear your side of the story on some of them…
5. After you were elected Jefferson County Treasurer in 2002, you were criticized for asking the county to buy you a used Cadillac Escalade, and when that failed, a Nissan Pathfinder. Eventually you settled on another vehicle. What happened here?
Finally, I get to say my peace over all of this. Thanks for asking this. The people who put forth those lies have either been term limited out or resigned. They were manifested in order to keep Jim Congrove and myself from becoming Commissioner once their term of office had ended. Should any of you, and I mean this, want to come look at the endless documentation and witness accounts from those who sat in these meetings which were little more than political strategy based in lies (you normally leave those to the 527s and not your own party) I do welcome you into the office.
At any rate, I am an eBay shopper. I asked the commissioners if there was a policy regarding the purchase of used vehicles. I cited the fact that even a Cadillac Escalade is $25,000 used which fell way under the budget offered for purchasing a new car. Regardless, I never looked into a Nissan Pathfinder. In fact, I decided to do something different and actually purchase a vehicle from the lowest, responsible bidder inside Jefferson County rather than the normal methods of using a business outside Jefferson County. As Jeffco Treasurer I think it is good public policy to support the businesses who live, operate and pay taxes within Jefferson County.
6. You hired friends for high-paying appointed positions that critics charged were unnecessary, and asked for a large amount of money to renovate your office that was also deemed by critics to be unnecessary. What was your response?
Again, one of our budget people who is still here sat in on these meetings, as well as the meeting over the Escalade. All I asked for was security for our Treasurer’s Office. I submitted a request for an estimate and never saw it until I read the ridiculous estimate in the paper. By the way, the person who put forth this estimate and the PIO who called the papers immediately after the meeting to determine this astronomical price have since been terminated or resigned. What I did find out though was that for $13,000 I could have just taken what I needed from surplus. I never did see the final estimate per the county. I only saw it in the papers. Again, if you want further facts and documentation of this, please come into the office. I never spent a dime on this. The people of Jeffco know that I would never spend a dime of their money without having a solid foundation for the requested expenditure. It’s not my money.
About the “friends.” As part of my transition team I employed Jim Congrove, the current county commissioner, part time, an economic analyst, part time, and an assistant. These weren’t highly paid by any means and an elected official is afforded two appointees. I needed them to help me navigate this new arena for me. And yet, I have remained one of the few departments that is constantly under budget. I also reduced FTE’s when the county was increasing them. And when the renovation rumor was being circulated, a $1 million dollar ACTUAL renovation was taking place on the 4th floor that went against the building code. The people who oversaw that have since resigned or been terminated. Yes, we did alert the press to this. No, they did not report it. I have the facts here in this office should you want the truth.
7. You engaged in a much-publicized action of passing out flyers in the county courthouse that encouraged prospective jurors to obey the law of God over the law of the courts. What were you trying to do? Why did you feel that it was not inappropriate for you to do this as an elected official?
I did not pass out flyers. The Jefferson County Courts and Administration Building was a memorial to Thomas Jefferson and we were celebrating its tenth anniversary. They were laid out on a table, in a display, in front of my office, in the admin side of the building. I was out of town. The booklets were paid for with personal funds. They are called Citizen Rule Books and I felt that during this time when it seems Congress doesn’t even know their enumerated powers, that the citizens must be educated on their rights. For reference sake, these booklets contain the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights and quotes from our founders regarding rights and powers of jurors.
8. You were dropped by the American Legion for failing to provide documentation about your military service. What happened?
The American Legion asked me to join. I said I do not qualify since I was not a Vietnam Era Veteran. They told me to give it a shot anyway since I was a friend. So, where they have the area on the application to check a box for your era of service, I made my own box and wrote in my service dates. They submitted the request, the American Legion said no and next thing I know, one of my political detractors, who serves in the same American Legion post, has handed it to a reporter. Though I sent the application to the reporter, the story was still published. I do have a copy of the application here at the office as well. The silver lining is that the American Legion received some publicity over the ordeal and hopefully benefited from it.
9. You’ve managed to get elected to public office repeatedly (state legislature, Jeffco Treasurer). What’s your secret?
By being honest and taking principled stands. People don’t like empty rhetoric, they like elected officials who have a backbone and take some heat on their behalf. Just like the media stories and the way I was targeted on my first day as Jefferson County Treasurer – anyone remember the “bounced checks?” Our Jefferson County PIO was standing in front of me during the press conference, tape recorder in hand, whispering questions to reporters. In fact, Rick Sallinger left saying, “There’s no story here.” Yet, I did not back down. The political world is a tough, shrewd, corrupt world. There’s no question about that. But if you show the people that you truly are out for their best interest and not out for the interests of a party, corporation, special interest, etc. they know that and they in turn are loyal. The public trust is so hard to gain and easy to lose. I realize that.
As for campaign secrets, I am not sharing! I am not going to tell my opponent how to defeat me!
10. A lot of voters might not understand what a county treasurer does. How would you describe the job?
The job, as I define it, is more than just processing tax payments, disbursing funds to the taxing authorities and investing the funds prior to disbursement, although these are the specific statutory duties of the County Treasurer. I am the county banker. My first duty is to uphold and defend the Constitution and next, to faithfully perform the duties of my office. I work to get the best rates of return on investments with regard to safety, liquidity, and yield. I also search out the best vendors for the taxpayers, and conduct my office in the most efficient, accountable manner possible. That’s why the people I have on my staff feel accountable to the taxpayers. It comes from the top down and if I am not accountable, my office will not be. The buck stops here all the time.
Yes, I follow tax initiatives and have tried to inform the taxpayers of the increased burden of taxes if ballot measures are approved. Let me tell you, when you have seniors calling to ask why you raised their taxes and hear their stories of having to leave their homes of 30 years because the government is growing at a rate larger than their incomes, then yes, the obligation to me is clear. I can’t just sit back and watch it happen and take the attitude that it’s not my business, just shut up and pay your taxes. Too many people shirk their responsibilities as citizens and human beings because it is “not my business.” Well, look at our world today.
11. There’s an old line in politics that it’s hard to get elected if you have facial hair, though you seem to have proved that wrong to some degree. Is there any basis to that idea that voters don’t like facial hair?
The first time I ran for office, I ran and I won. I think Coloradans are independent enough to accept a person for what they are and not what they look like. When I announce, you’ll be the first to know. Right now, I have gone from a full beard to a goatee. Once the goatee comes off, you’ll know I am in the race (though my wife tells me I need to lose 10 lbs first).
Do you have a question for Mark Paschall? Ask it in the COMMENTS section below…
Thanks for participating. If Beauprez does run for governor, will you support him or Holtzman?
Posted by: Susan B | June 14, 2005 at 10:18 AM
To Susan B,
I'm going to defer on that one but will keep you posted.
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 10:31 AM
As a conservative, you often speak of the damage government and regulation can do to the economy and the civil liberties of our country. Do you think it is somewhat contradictory to talk that way, yet you have been "of government" for 11 years and counting?
Posted by: Gov'tmule | June 14, 2005 at 10:36 AM
Thanks again for participating!
Mr. Pascall, my parnter and I live in the 7th District, we have been together for 10 years and we are both male.
Please expain to me why you feel that we should not have the same legal protections and benefits as Rush Limbaugh has enjoyed with his 4 wives.
And then please explain to me how you would represent us in Congress should you decide to run.
Posted by: Coloradem | June 14, 2005 at 10:38 AM
You say you have formed an exploratory committee, have you raised any money? If so, how much? Who has endorsed you?
Posted by: Jake | June 14, 2005 at 10:39 AM
In 2006 their is thought that a amendment will be on the ballot that would define marriage as one man and one woman. If this is on the ballot in 06 would you support it. Also would your position change if the amendment included making it illegal to have civil unions or domestic partnerships for same-sex couples? Thanks for taking the time to answer all the questions today.
Posted by: concerned | June 14, 2005 at 10:40 AM
Have you signed the military’s Standard Form 180? If not, will you agree to sign it so voters can see the documents involving your military service and specifically why you were discharged?
Posted by: col.klink | June 14, 2005 at 10:41 AM
To Govtmule,
Prior to public service, I worked in the private sector starting in 1970.
I was told that you shouldn't complain about government if you're not willing to get involved. Seeking elected office is the epitome of involvement.
Regardless of your political position, I am an agent of change and there is a lot to be done.
Look, I have been and remain concerned about the survival of our REPUBLIC. Those whom we elect stand in the gap between an ever-expanding government and our unalienable, God given rights.
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 10:56 AM
Your current term as Treasurer is up in 2006. If you run, will you resign from your Treasurer's job, if not how will you run and work at the same time?
Posted by: JeffcoGoper | June 14, 2005 at 11:02 AM
Will you pledge to limit yourself to 3 terms if elected?
Posted by: USATERMLIMITS | June 14, 2005 at 11:08 AM
Don't you think the Founding Fathers had it right when they talked about the importance of giving your time to government, then returning to the private sector to contribute to the economy? When do you plan to return to the private sector?
Posted by: gov'tmule | June 14, 2005 at 11:10 AM
To Coloradem:
You may be aware that I passed the "Defense of Marriage Act" here in Colorado in 2000.
The issue you bring forward is decidedly the purview of the States under the 10th & 14th Amendments.
I believe that the best public policy is to promote and support the traditional definition of marriage as the union between one man and one woman. There are many types of domestic relationships represented in our society. When I was in the financial planning business, legal instruments are available to secure your wishes from estate transfers to healthcare.
Regarding the second part of your question, I submit to you that your ability to direct and control your own destiny is better served with less government not more.
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 11:16 AM
To Jake:
Timing is everything in running campaigns, I'll disclose that information at the appropriate time.
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 11:19 AM
You really danced around that question about the pamphlets that you provided to jurors. Walter in Denver has a link to this story here: Bible Pamphlets
The pocket-sized booklets promote "jury nullification," a concept built upon since 1989 by politically conservative groups that argue juries have the right to not only decide guilt or innocence, but also whether laws are just and adhere to God's law.
"YOU ARE ABOVE THE LAW!" the booklet says. "As a JUROR in a trial setting, when it comes to your individual vote of innocent or guilty, you truly are answerable only to GOD ALMIGHTY."
I would like to know why you thought it was okay to promote "jury nullification" on the basis that God's law is above the law of our legal system. I don't care if you paid for it yourself, because as an elected official you are always a representative of the office you were elected to serve. Do you truly believe that jurors do not have to follow our legal system?
Posted by: Ter Ducken | June 14, 2005 at 11:20 AM
To Concerned:
I think I answered most of your question in my answer to colordem. The 1st Amendment restricts Congress from passing laws that interfere with our right to associate with whomever.
We live in a society of dynamic vocabulary and static principles. The phrase "civil union" is problematic from a public policy perspective in its vagueness. How many domestic relationships that exist in our society could be legally interpreted as being protected as a "civil union?"
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 11:38 AM
thanks for answering questions today. where do you stand on referendum C&D, and will you campaign for or against it?
Posted by: Steve-o | June 14, 2005 at 11:40 AM
If you only could change one thing, would it be to outlaw all abortion or replace the current tax code?
Posted by: rightwinger | June 14, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Do you think we should build a wall along the Mexican border similar to what the Israelis are doing in Gaza and the West Bank?
Posted by: closetheborder | June 14, 2005 at 11:48 AM
To col.klink:
NO!
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 11:48 AM
To JeffcoGoper:
No! I will work and run as any other elected official or civil servant.
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 11:51 AM
Can you please explain your position toward state rights in relation to issues like marriage and gun control?
Posted by: marshall | June 14, 2005 at 11:59 AM
To follow up, do you agree with the Supreme Court decision in invalidating state anti-sodomy laws, or do you believe that states should be able to imprison gays for engaging in such acts?
Posted by: Coloradem | June 14, 2005 at 12:19 PM
If you decide to run for Congress, will you pledge to Support Life?
Posted by: thinkin | June 14, 2005 at 12:39 PM
To Ter Ducken:
This one warrants more critique since you have posted and referenced opinions and media reports. My response will take the form of insertions in CAPS into the body of your statement/questions.
You really danced around that question about the pamphlets that you provided to jurors. [INCORRECT! THE CITIZEN RULE BOOK WAS MADE AVAILABLE, AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE WING ON THE 2ND FLOOR OF THE COUNTY BUILDING, TO THOSE VISITING THE "TAJ" DURING THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COUNTY BUILDING. THIS WAS A CELEBRATION COMMEMORATING THE INFLUENCE OF THOMAS JEFFERSON AND HIS PROMOTION OF OPEN GOVERNMENT. THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXPANDING POWERS OF THE JUDICIARY.] Walter in Denver has a link to this story here: Bible Pamphlets
The pocket-sized booklets promote "jury nullification," a concept built upon since 1989 by politically conservative groups that argue juries have the right to not only decide guilt or innocence, but also whether laws are just and adhere to God's law.
"YOU ARE ABOVE THE LAW!" the booklet says. "As a JUROR in a trial setting, when it comes to your individual vote of innocent or guilty, you truly are answerable only to GOD ALMIGHTY." [THE DISTORTIONS AND VITRIOL SURROUNDING THIS STATEMENT BY MR. WHITTEN, ARE A WITNESS TO THE WILLINGNESS OF SOME TO EFFECTUALLY REWRITE BY INTERPRETATION THE HISTORY AND MEANING OF AUTHORS AND THEIR WORDS. THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, THE PREAMBLE TO COLORADO'S CONSTITUTION CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY ACKNOWLEDGE THE EXISTANCE OF AND AUTHORITY OF "THE CREATOR," "THE SUPREME RULER OF THE UNIVERSE" AS THE ONE TO WHOM WE WILL EVENTUALLY GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF OUR LIVES TO. HENCE, IT IS QUITE UNDERSTANDABLE HOW MR.WHITTEN WOULD DRAW THE PARALLEL OF PLENARY POWERS OF INDIVIDUALS (GRANTED BY "THEIR CREATOR") TO THE LIMITED, EXPRESS POWERS OF GOVERNMENT WHEN IT IS APPLIED TO DECISIONS BY A JURY. FURTHERMORE, "JURY NULLIFICATION" HAS EXISTED FOR CENTURIES, NOT AS SOME WOULD LEAD US TO BELIEVE, SINCE 1989! FOR PROOF OF THIS, JUST TAKE A LITTLE TRIP UP TO GILPIN COUNTY AND READ THE PLAQUE (PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS, I MIGHT ADD) THAT STATES IN PART ". . . THAT NO JURY WOULD CONVICT A BOOTLEGGER . . ." IN GILPIN COUNTY DURING PROHIBITION. WHY? BECAUSE THEY, LIKE THE JURORS WHO SET ASIDE THE DIRECTIVES OF THE FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT, BELIEVED THAT THE LAW WAS WRONG. AND THIS SPEAKS TO THE 2ND CHECK AGAINST GOVERNMENTAL TYRANNY AFFORDED TO "THE PEOPLE," NAMELY YOUR POWER AND RIGHT, AS A JUROR, TO VOTE "GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY." OUR FREEDOM AND OUR COMMITMENT TO PROMOTE A GOOD AND DECENT SOCIETY IS DEPENDENT UPON THIS CONCEPT OF CHECKING GOVERNMENTAL TYRANNY BY 1) THE VOTE AT THE BALLOT BOX, OF WHO WILL STAND IN THE GAP AND 2) OUR JUDGMENT OF AND FLESHING OUT OF THE LAW WHEN WE SIT AS A JUROR, IN JUDGMENT OF OUR NEIGHBOR.
I would like to know why you thought it was okay to promote "jury nullification" on the basis that God's law is above the law of our legal system. I don't care if you paid for it yourself, because as an elected official you are always a representative of the office you were elected to serve. Do you truly believe that jurors do not have to follow our legal system? [OUR JUROR'S ARE FOLLOWING OUR LEGAL SYSTEM BY SUBMITTING THEMSELVES TO BE SEATED ON A JURY! I SUBSCRIBE TO IT!]
Posted by: Mark Paschall | June 14, 2005 at 01:02 PM
So you believe that gay marriage should be up to individual states and you'd support banning it as it is a states right issue? Does this mean you OPPOSE President Bush's effort to amend the U.S. Constitution to define marraige as one man and one woman?
Posted by: Confused | June 14, 2005 at 01:11 PM